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Re: nincs cím

#636681 szotyi Előzmény: #636632

Tegnap a gyönyörűen kiépített long eurhuf pozimat kiütötte... most megint épitgetem de egyre kisebb lelkesedéssel... Nem tudom mitévő legyek... Ehhhh....

újabb kísérlet eurchf lo…

#609666 ikszf

újabb kísérlet eurchf longra 1,2167-ről

usdtry shortot ajánlom m…

#599605 rbbj11

usdtry shortot ajánlom mindenkinek vizsgálatra

Re: nincs cím

#599563 ikszf Előzmény: #598979

végül lejött értem a piac :)

a pozi felét zártam kézzel 1,2310-nél (valószínűleg amatőr módon türelmetlenül)

a másik felét hagyom futni

1,2267-re újra beraktam …

#598979 ikszf

1,2267-re újra beraktam egy eurchf longot

stop: 1,2227

tp: 1,2347

(de lehet feljebb tolom mindkettőt 10pip-el)

Egy kis adókecsegtetés, …

#597438 Fornit

Egy kis adókecsegtetés, ide rakom be a fx példája miatt:

"Over the last couple of years, a great deal of effort has been spent in Europe to try and collect on a transaction tax. This so-called "Tobin tax" is different from what one is used to paying when investing. It is not to be levied on any capital gains, instead, it's to be levied on any amounts bought or sold.

Although in its presently proposed form some trading is exempted, such as daytrading or new (primary market issuance), this tax still has the potential to wreak havoc with many market segments. As of today, there is an attempt to apply this tax worldwide, taking into account the residence of the trader. The tax is supposed to be 0.1% of stock and bond trades or 0.01% of the notional amount on derivative trades.

My personal example, regarding forex

It would seem that 0.01% is a very minor tax and traders would be able to pay it without thinking. But it's not so simple. This applies to every trade, be it a winner or a loser. And in some instances, like forex or derivatives, leverage can amplify the tax impact.

Take for instance my own case. Since I launched my automatic forex trading systems, these have produced a return of +168% over 1 year and a couple of months. The systems produced this by trading mostly EUR/USD but also GBP/USD and USD/JPY. To achieve such a return, the systems made 2396 trades, 753 of which were winners, 883 losers. The winners made 24.5 pips on average; the losers lost 16.51 pips on average. What this means is that over 2,396 trades, the average gain per trade on average has been just 1.61 pips.

Now remember, this new tax is supposed to be 0.01% of every transaction. EUR/USD trades at 1.3340 right now, 0.01% of that is 1.33 pips. If every transaction incurred an additional cost of 1.33 pips, this would wipe out 83% of the returns I have made.

This is huge

Much like with my example in forex, any stock or bond trader which trades frequently will be exposed to the same dynamics. Large returns get wiped out; small returns turn into large losses. Although the U.S. might refuse to apply such rules, many of the brokers based in the U.S. have a significant number of European customers, so this is a net negative if it ever comes to fruition."

Feltűnt, hogy 2396 trade-ből 753 nyertes, 883 vesztes, az csak 1636 trade lenne :)

Re: nincs cím

#596916 rbbj11 Előzmény: #596911

igen, sok has. próbálkozás volt már, maga ez a topik is ilyen volt, ami feltűnően hosszan, talán 1 éven át működött is